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	<title>Comments on: Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 3rd Edition! Goodbye 2nd Edition?</title>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hasbro destroyed D&amp;D with 4e. FFG destroyed Warhammer fantasy with 3e.

What is wrong with these people?!

The new Warhammer fantasy was named incorrectly. It is not an RPG, it is an RPG/boardgame hybrid that is designed to milk fans of their money!

They are taking notes from the CCG&#039;s. Keep selling new booster packs to fleece us of our money! That is what this new edition is really all about. 

NO THANK YOU!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hasbro destroyed D&amp;D with 4e. FFG destroyed Warhammer fantasy with 3e.</p>
<p>What is wrong with these people?!</p>
<p>The new Warhammer fantasy was named incorrectly. It is not an RPG, it is an RPG/boardgame hybrid that is designed to milk fans of their money!</p>
<p>They are taking notes from the CCG&#8217;s. Keep selling new booster packs to fleece us of our money! That is what this new edition is really all about. </p>
<p>NO THANK YOU!</p>
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		<title>By: J P</title>
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		<dc:creator>J P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I have to say I&#039;ve seen a lot of people come to this particular page and I&#039;m about convinced I need to try it sometime. I&#039;m a fan of stunt and action games like Feng Shui and Wushu and such, so I have nothing against games like that, and I&#039;m curious as to how this would work with Warhammer - it was just the whole thing being overhauled and essentially negating every dime invested in all the previous material. For people without a whole lot of money, that just isn&#039;t acceptable, but they&#039;re not concerned with people without a whole lot of money, but as a business, I can objectively understand that, but it doesn&#039;t make it sting any less. But for the system&#039;s sake itself, I&#039;m very interested to see it and try it, as there are a lot of people with very positive views of it - thanks for commenting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I have to say I&#8217;ve seen a lot of people come to this particular page and I&#8217;m about convinced I need to try it sometime. I&#8217;m a fan of stunt and action games like Feng Shui and Wushu and such, so I have nothing against games like that, and I&#8217;m curious as to how this would work with Warhammer &#8211; it was just the whole thing being overhauled and essentially negating every dime invested in all the previous material. For people without a whole lot of money, that just isn&#8217;t acceptable, but they&#8217;re not concerned with people without a whole lot of money, but as a business, I can objectively understand that, but it doesn&#8217;t make it sting any less. But for the system&#8217;s sake itself, I&#8217;m very interested to see it and try it, as there are a lot of people with very positive views of it &#8211; thanks for commenting!</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 19:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been playing roleplaying games for a few years now, probably about 5, (DnD, Star Wars, but mostly Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 2nd Edition, Dark Heresy, and now WHRP 3rd edition) and I can honestly say that this system is by far the best system of it&#039;s time. I&#039;m not saying that it&#039;s without faults, because there are certainly quite a few, but it lets the players focus on story telling and character development, and not get tripped up on needless technical tables and endless page turnings. Everything that a player needs is right in your little kit that you put together when you make your character. Admitedly, the Fantasy setting is getting a little old, but I&#039;ve had the most fun I&#039;ve had in a long time playing Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 3rd Edition.

I implore you, give it a try if you haven&#039;t already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been playing roleplaying games for a few years now, probably about 5, (DnD, Star Wars, but mostly Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 2nd Edition, Dark Heresy, and now WHRP 3rd edition) and I can honestly say that this system is by far the best system of it&#8217;s time. I&#8217;m not saying that it&#8217;s without faults, because there are certainly quite a few, but it lets the players focus on story telling and character development, and not get tripped up on needless technical tables and endless page turnings. Everything that a player needs is right in your little kit that you put together when you make your character. Admitedly, the Fantasy setting is getting a little old, but I&#8217;ve had the most fun I&#8217;ve had in a long time playing Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 3rd Edition.</p>
<p>I implore you, give it a try if you haven&#8217;t already.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 19:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought it at an unbelievable discount from my local store &amp; have to say that I&#039;m impressed with the system.

The dice represent a step forward in role playing; the cards are a nice-to-have reference for the GM &amp; player, and a great visual; I like the idea of the cutouts &amp; their representation, although, I think I&#039;m going to replace them with pewter figures as I am able.

I think I paid $59.99 US for mine, plus I bought the Adventurer&#039;s Kit, the GM Kit, &amp; a campaign.  I&#039;m looking forward to role playing like I haven&#039;t since I first started as a teenager.  FFG hit a home run with this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought it at an unbelievable discount from my local store &amp; have to say that I&#8217;m impressed with the system.</p>
<p>The dice represent a step forward in role playing; the cards are a nice-to-have reference for the GM &amp; player, and a great visual; I like the idea of the cutouts &amp; their representation, although, I think I&#8217;m going to replace them with pewter figures as I am able.</p>
<p>I think I paid $59.99 US for mine, plus I bought the Adventurer&#8217;s Kit, the GM Kit, &amp; a campaign.  I&#8217;m looking forward to role playing like I haven&#8217;t since I first started as a teenager.  FFG hit a home run with this one.</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 16:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the reply, I&#039;m going to repost this comment as an article (I&#039;ll remove it if the author objects).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the reply, I&#8217;m going to repost this comment as an article (I&#8217;ll remove it if the author objects).</p>
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		<title>By: johnV</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 22:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice post JP, OK so i have been curious about this System. out with the old in with the new....I&#039;m cool with that except for a few things. i do believe FFG probably put a lot of work into this system and its true it seems quite inovative. there are some things to be merited here. 
my first issues is where did this come from. why the complete reHall? it speaks of a whole Marketing ploy to me. &quot;if we make a new system people will need to re bye all new stuff&quot; $$$. its the way most Roleplaying companies get more money. its a business after all. but when you invest time and money into a system you love its very hard to just through that all away and start fresh. 
if you look at the newer version it reminds me so much of Advanced Hero Quest like nothing else. why didn&#039;t they not call it something like that and publish it as a warhammer type game. i guess its a global move to make RPG games more like the Gamming style of WOW even then newer art work is heading towards that style. 
You had some awesome original artwork from John Blanche in the v1 which was truly original and really helped create a feel for War hammer as that grim foggy wet and some what oppressive medieval European environment that set it apart from D&amp;D and still does. fantasy art has become so generic and its so sad to see Warhammer v3 head down the same WOW/D&amp;D path. 
unfortunately i feel like FFG didn&#039;t really review the old system  for any of its merits v1-2 where a fast but detailed system which allowed you alot of freedom. now this new system has headed down the old tabletop cards and dice system its sorta taken the romance out of the game and particularly the artwork on these glossy over charactered colored cards ruins most of it for me sort like eating an over cheesy cheese Pizza. 

Ah well its a new game so take it or leave it i guess if your new to the this then jump in FFGs and made some great Tabletop games for good old family fun. but for me sorry FFGs i doubt t I&#039;ll be investing my time in the new system especially as they seem to be company that believes they know best and has no interest in connecting with the established and passionate community. also now there is a clear separation between tabletop battle and Roleplaying which is a dam shame for massive campaigns.

well back to collecting old Warhammers Roleplay stuff woot :)... thanks FFGs for making these gems more collect-able.

rockin it Old school :)

john</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice post JP, OK so i have been curious about this System. out with the old in with the new&#8230;.I&#8217;m cool with that except for a few things. i do believe FFG probably put a lot of work into this system and its true it seems quite inovative. there are some things to be merited here.<br />
my first issues is where did this come from. why the complete reHall? it speaks of a whole Marketing ploy to me. &#8220;if we make a new system people will need to re bye all new stuff&#8221; $$$. its the way most Roleplaying companies get more money. its a business after all. but when you invest time and money into a system you love its very hard to just through that all away and start fresh.<br />
if you look at the newer version it reminds me so much of Advanced Hero Quest like nothing else. why didn&#8217;t they not call it something like that and publish it as a warhammer type game. i guess its a global move to make RPG games more like the Gamming style of WOW even then newer art work is heading towards that style.<br />
You had some awesome original artwork from John Blanche in the v1 which was truly original and really helped create a feel for War hammer as that grim foggy wet and some what oppressive medieval European environment that set it apart from D&amp;D and still does. fantasy art has become so generic and its so sad to see Warhammer v3 head down the same WOW/D&amp;D path.<br />
unfortunately i feel like FFG didn&#8217;t really review the old system  for any of its merits v1-2 where a fast but detailed system which allowed you alot of freedom. now this new system has headed down the old tabletop cards and dice system its sorta taken the romance out of the game and particularly the artwork on these glossy over charactered colored cards ruins most of it for me sort like eating an over cheesy cheese Pizza. </p>
<p>Ah well its a new game so take it or leave it i guess if your new to the this then jump in FFGs and made some great Tabletop games for good old family fun. but for me sorry FFGs i doubt t I&#8217;ll be investing my time in the new system especially as they seem to be company that believes they know best and has no interest in connecting with the established and passionate community. also now there is a clear separation between tabletop battle and Roleplaying which is a dam shame for massive campaigns.</p>
<p>well back to collecting old Warhammers Roleplay stuff woot :)&#8230; thanks FFGs for making these gems more collect-able.</p>
<p>rockin it Old school :)</p>
<p>john</p>
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		<title>By: J P</title>
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		<dc:creator>J P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 23:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure about the AUD/USD exchange but that sounds fairly top-dollar, or at least about the same as it cost when it first came out, but I may be wrong - I recall some people saying they bought it for $50 USD but it may have been used on eBay.

Well, like I said, I&#039;d like to try it, it doesn&#039;t sound so bad, overall, but they left a lot of 1st and 2nd Edition fans, which kept the game going for them to be able to pick up the license and make money off it, out in the cold, and redid the whole system, trashing all the previous sourcebooks and supplements and not providing any official conversion charts or tables. 

Even though that would have been a lot of work for GMs, it would have been a nod by the company, of appreciation and understanding, and throwing them a bone and a &quot;here, we know you already spent hundreds on the other stuff, so here&#039;s a way to keep using it to make your Warhammer experience even fuller - but do check out our new stuff too!&quot;  There&#039;s nothing wrong with being decent to people that are making you money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure about the AUD/USD exchange but that sounds fairly top-dollar, or at least about the same as it cost when it first came out, but I may be wrong &#8211; I recall some people saying they bought it for $50 USD but it may have been used on eBay.</p>
<p>Well, like I said, I&#8217;d like to try it, it doesn&#8217;t sound so bad, overall, but they left a lot of 1st and 2nd Edition fans, which kept the game going for them to be able to pick up the license and make money off it, out in the cold, and redid the whole system, trashing all the previous sourcebooks and supplements and not providing any official conversion charts or tables. </p>
<p>Even though that would have been a lot of work for GMs, it would have been a nod by the company, of appreciation and understanding, and throwing them a bone and a &#8220;here, we know you already spent hundreds on the other stuff, so here&#8217;s a way to keep using it to make your Warhammer experience even fuller &#8211; but do check out our new stuff too!&#8221;  There&#8217;s nothing wrong with being decent to people that are making you money.</p>
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		<title>By: Dillon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dillon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just bought it for $150.00 AUD (Australian). In my opinion it&#039;s very good value for what it is. And I think you are getting very hung up on the fact that it&#039;s obviously very different from previous incarnations. I personally applaud FFG for taking the system in a different direction and the core mechanic is just brilliant. I hope they continue to expand on the system myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just bought it for $150.00 AUD (Australian). In my opinion it&#8217;s very good value for what it is. And I think you are getting very hung up on the fact that it&#8217;s obviously very different from previous incarnations. I personally applaud FFG for taking the system in a different direction and the core mechanic is just brilliant. I hope they continue to expand on the system myself.</p>
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		<title>By: J P</title>
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		<dc:creator>J P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a nice, simple summary. Can&#039;t fault that - does make me curious about trying it out, could be a decent system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a nice, simple summary. Can&#8217;t fault that &#8211; does make me curious about trying it out, could be a decent system.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Malin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren Malin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 02:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I bought the 3rd ed rules and have played a lot of 2nd. All in all I pefer 3rd ed the die system is very neat and the power crds are a reat idea no more flicking though a book to find a powers details its tey rigth infront of the player. give it a try you will be pleasantly suprized.</description>
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<p>I bought the 3rd ed rules and have played a lot of 2nd. All in all I pefer 3rd ed the die system is very neat and the power crds are a reat idea no more flicking though a book to find a powers details its tey rigth infront of the player. give it a try you will be pleasantly suprized.</p>
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