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		<title>WFRP3 &#8211; What&#8217;s the Verdict?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 12:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>J P</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, it&#8217;s February of 2010 now, and Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 3rd Edition has been out since about November of 2009, so roughly three to four months &#8211; so how has it been received? Rodney Thompson, an actual game designer over at WFRP&#8217;s (and everyone else&#8217;s) main competitor for dominant fantasy RPG, Wizards of the Coast [...]]]></description>
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<p>Well, it&#8217;s February of 2010 now, and Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 3rd Edition has been out since about November of 2009, so roughly three to four months &#8211; so how has it been received?</p>
<p>Rodney Thompson, an actual game designer over at WFRP&#8217;s (and everyone else&#8217;s) main competitor for dominant fantasy RPG, Wizards of the Coast (D&amp;D), wrote up quite a <a href="http://community.wizards.com/wotc_rodney/blog/2009/12/20/thoughts_on_wfrp3">comprehensive WFRP3 review</a> and his thoughts on running the new release, and in a surprise twist, most of it was quite a glowing endorsement.</p>
<p>the <a href="http://altdorfer.blogspot.com/2009/12/wfrp-unboxing-wfrpv3.html">Altdorfer Correspondent </a>does an interesting &#8220;unboxing&#8221;, for those interested in approaching the system from a step-by-step &#8220;I am opening the box.  I am looking inside the box&#8230;&#8221; method.</p>
<p>Although a bit late in my posting, Fantasy Flight Games in January, announced the <a href="http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=1052">Game Master&#8217;s Toolkit</a>, which cost the, I guess not outrageous sum of <a href="http://store.fantasyflightgames.com/showproducts.cfm?Step=1&amp;FullCat=126">$30.00</a>, and which looks pretty slick, like the rest of their line, and promises more cards and other such things, which I guess if you&#8217;re a fan of the new system, is good news.  Also check out this Amazon.Com offering for WFRP2&#8242;s super rare <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Warhammer-Fantasy-Roleplay-Career-Compendium/dp/1589944801">Career Compendium</a> &#8211; $80 to $132? Are you joking?!</p>
<p><span id="more-409"></span>The <a href="http://www.in8sworld.net/blog/archives/1448">iN8sWoRld</a> owner, apparently Nate (n8) Berry, wrote a brief blurb on WFRP3 (and linked to ZS, thanks Nate!), similar to mine, relating disappointment and even going so far as to rate it as a &#8220;FAIL&#8221;.  I&#8217;m actually not sure I fully agree with this, as I&#8217;ve been rethinking my position and getting used to the idea of the new format for Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay.  If you&#8217;re talking about the total rewrite of system and play style and outrageous price, then yes I totally echo Nate&#8217;s view.</p>
<p>From what I can see around the net, at the various communities, big and small, and publishers and reviewers, it is still a split, but not an even one, as Third Edition WFRP seems to be gaining acceptance, albeit grudging in some cases, plus the new supporters and customers they&#8217;ve gained from their glossy new marketing and simplistic approach to play, so while we can complain about &#8220;betrayal&#8221; (as I did), I guess I can&#8217;t argue with their motives from a commercial point-of-view, as they&#8217;ve gained new fans and converted some old ones, which was exactly their intent.</p>
<p>Thinking back over what I&#8217;ve read about WFRP3, although I would never pay what is being charged, I have to admit that WFRP2 books sold for about $30 on average, and if they put 4 books in this boxed core set, that would be $120, and they sell it for $99, so I guess it actually even gives a <em>slight</em>, very slight, discount &#8211; but it&#8217;s all in one lump, rather than one supplement or resource at a time, which is just so prohibitive, I don&#8217;t know how they sold any.</p>
<p>That said, I understand the concept of modularizing everything into cards, easily accessible, even photocopyable for multiple games and players &#8211; keep your spells and weapons and such in your own little Player/Character notebook/pouch so you have all the pertinent rules for that particular feature (whatever it may be) right there at the table in front of you so you don&#8217;t have to flip through game tomes.  I just wish there was some other way to have done this, because no matter how convenient it is AT the time, it doesn&#8217;t change the fact you&#8217;ve taken something that takes, at the minimum, some dice, a piece of paper or two, and a pencil, and magically transformed it into the equivalent of Monopoly, or worse, Axis and Allies or Risk, component-wise.</p>
<p>So I applaud the risky repackaging and format for the rules and how the players access them, but just can&#8217;t behind a lot of the other aspects of WFRP3, and although they&#8217;re no longer the majority, a lot of other people can&#8217;t either.</p>
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		<title>Warhammer 3rd Edition &#8211; The Guts</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>J P</dc:creator>
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<p style="text-align: center;">Oh my god. Looks beautiful, for a complicated board game. SOB. =/</p>
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